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I'm gonna ask each of the speakers to

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just introduce themselves maybe

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reintroduce themselves and give a little

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bit admitted information may be

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repetitive that they've done before or

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if they wish to mention something that

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maybe the audience is not aware of such

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as your high bowling game or some other

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obscure fact we'll hold that to you know

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about five minutes or so give them a

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time to check to see if their mics are

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up and for them to say what they wish to

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say then I'm going to start pummeling

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them with questions and I'm going to ask

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for interruptions as often as possible I

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understand there are a number of even

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you know physicians in the audience and

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it would be great if we can get some

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questions from them it doesn't even

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matter if you're an OBGYN if you've got

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a question about I know how to give

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birth I'm sure these four gentlemen will

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be able to give their two cents so let

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master's degree their master's degree in

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business administration at Michigan

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State and then I worked on Wall Street

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finance and investments that type of

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thing for a number of years and then I

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decided that making money was not the

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most important thing in life and so I

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decided to go into medicine and I went

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to the Marshall University Medical

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School and I was fortunate enough to be

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accepted into the residency program at

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Johns Hopkins and I did my residency

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there and continued out there for a few

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years associated with Johns Hopkins I

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have worked with the Food and Drug

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Administration and IH and still do have

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association with NIH doing certain

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medical research and I also do services

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a quick question for you before you go

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on what type of I mean now that you have

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the MD were you involved in medical

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research or were you involved in seeing

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patients of any kind for the benefit of

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the audience oh yes okay thank you John

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and the other John I may have to use

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your last names because there's two

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John's up on the stage John McMichael

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please John McMichael my training was at

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University of Maine as an undergraduate

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and ph.d program at Oregon State have

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the honor of developing the first live

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virus vaccines for fish that's it's a

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big hit in the world of fish anyway and

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postdoc at the Wistar Institute in

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Philadelphia which at the time was and

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is still on the leading police's for

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some breakthrough kinds of medicine was

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a university professor for a decade or

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more headed up a large veterinary

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research lab and for the last few years

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have been associated with a small

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company called Beechtree labs where we

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focus on the discovery and development

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of new medicines for both humans and

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animals and our modus operandi is to go

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through what are called proof of concept

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studies which are FDA phase 2 trials and

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we license our products out to larger

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companies to do the final regulatory

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bits and get them on the market

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John McMichael your beginnings when you

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said you were teaching at Edinburgh what

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courses were you're teaching can you

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give us an idea you know

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graduate courses immunology virology

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involved in humans or we do an animal

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physiology as well it was mostly human

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all right right sir go get him dr.

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Richard Laurie I grew up in affluent

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suburbia of Detroit and I went to a

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community college and I specialized in

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cannabis tasting I mean just kidding

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time and I got was trying to be a become

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a professional hockey player and I took

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a pretty good slam and ended up in a

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chiropractor's office against

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everybody's belief system at the time

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and after the treatment I stood up and

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as I can do that I says I've been

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adjusting bones or whatever you call

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that since I was 14 and the guy said

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well you know there's a bus going to a

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Chiropractic College and and the next

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night I was on it and then from there I

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chose what chiropractic school I should

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go to so I could put myself through

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chiropractic school as a professional

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hockey referee and in order to escape

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going to work I had to get a Bachelors

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of Science degree which was very hard

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and then I reached hired in life at 1981

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degree I moved back to to the hometown

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of 350 people of Hillman Michigan and

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I've been in practice for 30 years I

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have coached two brothers a

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sister-in-law and my ex-wife through

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chiropractic college and of course at

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that time I started realizing that I had

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an intuitive sense that other people

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I currently operate six days a week

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seven to eight hours a day try not to

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work on Sundays anymore and during this

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time I started trying to understand what

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was going on with why it was so easy for

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me to see and perceive and do things

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that it was never taught in any academia

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setting I was very concerned about the

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healthcare profession I wanted to know

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you know what was an MRI and what does a

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cat scan and why chiropractors couldn't

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get onto it and I proceeded within a

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two-year period from 84 to 86 I opened

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up all the hospitals in the country for

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chiropractors to obtain x-rays cat scans

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and MRIs and believe me I did it by

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bribing people did it the old-fashioned

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American Way

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and that worked out pretty good and when

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the genetic field I decided to become a

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geneticist and when I started applying

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minerals and subatomic particles and

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overlaying this on a standard periodic

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charts and the genetic charts I started

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looking at things completely different

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and when I realized that all the

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minerals had mathematical values and I

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can break an amino acid protein and

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amino acid down to an individual

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frequency I started looking at you know

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the human body as DNA is a receiving

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device that creates three-dimensional

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proteins it uses vitamins and minerals

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to develop this construct and I started

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looking at all the deficiencies and

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toxicities of vitamins and minerals and

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particularly minerals in general and

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it's just basically it led to maybe four

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years of prayer wondering how I'd ever

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talk about this and the next thing I

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know I hooked up in the organic industry

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where I've been lecturing since 2005 I

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do do license renewal seminars for MDS

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dioz and chiropractors and I would

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prefer to do the organic farmers because

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they're interested in producing good

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food for humans where the majority the

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doctors they just want to know how to

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make money like everybody does but I

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find the people that are trying to

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develop good food chains force a a far

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more satisfying group of people to try

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to educate into what it is that I'm

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doing Richard there's the horses are

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Derby connections I wanted to know

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because chiropractors on horses very

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very big in my area have you done any

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adjustments on anything but a human I

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think the first thing I get is I hit a

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bird once and then I worked on its neck

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and it flew out of my hands I went to a

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bar and there was a goat that was part

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of the stunt and I went out back and

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adjusted it because they had stage

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fright and then when I was in

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lady who handled the farm with 42 horses

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and I went and treated all the 42 horses

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and I realized that horses speak in a

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language that most nobody can comprehend

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that would be of Loosli word with horses

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and yes I've adjusted many horses and

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it's interesting the horse sense that

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people have all say do you have horses

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I go well do you give your horse a

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selenium and they go why you stupid of

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course I do and I go we'll do you take

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it or should I and it just never

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ceases to amaze me that farmers will

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give their animals the minerals it takes

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to make a living and the horses are in

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our County all the animals have far

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better mineralization of the human

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beings and the farmers themselves don't

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comprehend that the minerals are giving

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their animals maybe they should take so

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and and there is good selenium and bad

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selenium down to where I am horses are

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more important than some people in some

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parts of Florida Henry please go ahead I

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became interested in science when I was

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in high school and I studied chemistry

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and I worked in a khadeem in

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electrochemistry for about 30 years and

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then I became interested in whether or

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not the Loch Ness monster exists and I

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found no help in the scientific

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literature was ignored so I became

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interested in why science studies some

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things and not others and that led me to

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get in touch with people like my cello

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truthy and Peter stearic who were just

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setting up this society and I also

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switched careers from chemistry to what

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science studies or science and

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technology studies that tries to

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integrate history of science philosophy

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of science sociology of science anything

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that attempts to understand how science

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works or how it should work

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and I made a special I had a special

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interest in the role of minority views

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or contrary infuse and that led me I

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guess a dozen years ago to realize that

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some people don't believe that HIV

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causes AIDS and about 10 years ago I

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read a book that made a statement about

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HIV which simply could not be true and

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that led me to the primary literature

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and that shows beyond doubt that HIV

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doesn't cause AIDS and that caused me to

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read more about medicine in general and

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to come to the sad conclusion that the

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blunder of hiv/aids is not unique but it

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represents trends that have been coming

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in science and in medical science for

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quite a while very good thank you Henry

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what we're gonna do is I want to begin

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with the serious questions as I

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mentioned before if anyone in the

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audience has a question

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don't even bother raising your hand I'm

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going to ignore you what I want you to

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do is go up to the mic and once I see

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you at the mic I'll know that you have a

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question especially because we may be

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moving off of that question so if you

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could think of something that comes to

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mind as these questions come out and as

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they start responding to them please go

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to the mic and then I will call upon you

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for that long let's see my first

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O'Leary you went through your

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presentation faster than I've ever heard

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you do it before what I'm gonna ask you

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to do is slow down a little bit I'm

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gonna choose one mineral I'm going to

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choose aluminum and I want you to ask

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through answering in three ways I want

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you to tell me what foods we're getting

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aluminum through what products were

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getting aluminum through then I want you

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to tell me the second part of the

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question is what it does inside your

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body clinically what do you see when you

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see aluminum poisoning inside the body

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and the third part to the question is

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how do you get rid of aluminum in the

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body and I'm talking about a human body

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not the horses aluminum is a very

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fascinating mineral this phenomena are

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called acid rain takes aluminum from a

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solid to a liquid and it gets into

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biological systems and if you're an

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unhappy crayfish it's because your gills

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are no longer being oval they're not

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being told to transpire oxygen under the

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system

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has a natural affinity for phosphorus

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and phospholipids that coat the brain in

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the city of Detroit the last mineral

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that's added to the city of Detroit

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drinking water that's sold to all the

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Suburbans is aluminum sulfate and it's

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added there to make the water Sparkle so

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you think it's clean now there's a group

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of lab rats that were unwillingly

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brought to Detroit and they were called

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and they found aluminum in the brains

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within three minutes of drinking the

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stuff aluminum I believe displaces boron

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and it causes havoc with transmission in

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the the myelin sheets of your your

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nerves I do believe aluminum will

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accumulate on the blood-brain barrier

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shutting down many of the molecular

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motors that causes excretion of waste

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products the blood-brain barrier is

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energy and raw material in and the

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excretion of the byproducts and if

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you're not excreting beta amyloid and

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you're you're not getting rid of your

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byproducts that's 3-dimensional proteins

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turn into two-dimensional beta sheets so

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if you go to McDonald's and you like

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genetically modified food and you get a

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cheeseburger the reason that cheese

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melts so easy it's aluminum I believe

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that United States has some of the

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highest Alzheimer's rates in the country

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is because they've added alumina silicon

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luminate to Morton table salt back in

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the 30s as an anti-caking agent and it's

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still added to table salt universally

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and people cook with this table salt and

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their food is aluminum laced and I think

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that's a real bad deal and the great

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aluminum detoxifier is cilantro when you

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start consuming cilantro doctor hua Mara

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out of Japan came to the proclamation

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that Vietnam had the lowest Alzheimer's

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rate in the Eastern Bloc and they found

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out that when a person was eating these

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meals of high in cilantro they were

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extruding between five and seven hundred

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milligrams of aluminum per void and I

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think aluminum is a very great metal to

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avoid considering that it can play more

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havoc on your system than good and again

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cilantro is the great aluminum

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detoxifier the when you put aluminum

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chlorohydrate from your armpits into

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your armpits and your body absorbs it it

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basically shorts out the nerve that goes

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to your sweat glands so you don't create

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moisture so the bacteria doesn't

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overgrow and

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you don't offend the guy sitting next to

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you and I don't wear it I'm sorry I like

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I like my 60s and the 70s everybody

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wanted to blame aluminum and then they

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kind of said well maybe that's not it

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because there's a lot of other minerals

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that the brain needs to function

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properly there's 27 selenium proteins in

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your brain and from if you look at when

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chlorophyll is created and you're taking

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carbon dioxide sunlight and water and

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you're creating sugar in oxygen when you

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go from that compound back to the basic

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compounds this is a series of oxidation

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reactions so an antioxidant is going to

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slow this down in selenium is the master

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mineral of antioxidant so I don't think

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if you just said well aluminum causes

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Alzheimer's

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I believe that low iodine levels causes

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a percentage of stupidness I believe

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that when you got selenium deficiencies

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you're not able to control your

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oxidation reactions right if you don't

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have your fatty omega-3s keeping the

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inflammation down all these diseases are

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not just tagged to one mineral but if

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you want to hang your head on aluminum

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you can actually just say aluminum with

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neurodegenerative changes now I had a

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case that came in and it was interesting

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because his mother had passed on in a

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period of five days and she was taking

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ten aspirin a day to control her

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arthritis and this 55 year old man

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bought her woman home and the sauce

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wasn't big enough for two women and when

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his mom got upset went to the doctor and

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she he's put her on 50 he put her on ten

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echo trend pills a day

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well instantly I knew there was

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something in equatoria that wasn't gonna

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make me happy so when I this has been 85

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I found out that echo trend has forty

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nine point five milligrams of aluminum

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per pill she went from no aluminum

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consumption in her prescription

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medicines to just short of 500

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milligrams and she developed all the

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symptoms of dialysis dementia and was

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passed

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within 10 days and there was no other

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cause that I could account for her the

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sudden deterioration so the you know you

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people like to hang the head and say

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aluminum well it's a multi-faceted but I

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say aluminium detoxification can only

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greatly enhance the possible outcome of

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neurological changes brought on by

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aluminum toxicity I think that adds

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something in relation to Alzheimer's one

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of the areas well I didn't mention my

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major interest in my background as a

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physician I'm mostly interested in

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alternative medicines and treatments and

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I'm very interested in the in Ayurvedic

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medicine which is the ancient Indian

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medical system I'm also interested in

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traditional medicine systems there are

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many many treatments for hundreds and

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all kinds of disorders that have been

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used for centuries but are not known to

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Western medicine and in relation to

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Alzheimer's I just learned today one of

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the one of the SSC presenters from from

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dr. dr. Shawn I can't but I'm sorry

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Shawn I can't that's on me

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desktop he was telling me that the food

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to Marik can also be used for for not

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only treatment but for for potential

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prevention of Alzheimer's and that this

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has been known for for decades in so I

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think we have a huge amount to learn

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from other cultures amongst their foods

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that can be used for healing various

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things such as you know such as the

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things that richard has been mentioning

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so we we have to to study and learn

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about the Ayurvedic system of and the

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foods of India the foods of China and

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many other cultures to identify those

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things that can be used to replace the

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current paradigm of simply using

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pharmaceuticals to treat everything and

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which is being pushed by the

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pharmaceutical companies right right I'd

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like to say something just plays about

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Alzheimer's we consider Alzheimer's a

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reversible disease and we treat it a

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little bit differently than what you've

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mentioned and there's a look fairly

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large pharmaceutical company that is

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locked into what we're doing they're

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just finishing a multinational phase

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three trial now but what we do is take

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just the first few amino acids as a beta

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amyloid protein which is the it's

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certainly implicated in that disease as

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a waste product that's simply is not

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getting eliminated and by using those

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those few amino acids as a therapeutic

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agent that we can give by a shot or a

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drop under the tongue or however you

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want to do it we find that the

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Alzheimer's patient can become much more

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functional and in doing some

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collaborative work with some

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investigators at East Tennessee Medical

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University who are expert in brain

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imaging we find that from their work as

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a part of a blinded study for this multi

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national effort that they could simply

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look at brain images and tell who was on

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the product and who was on placebo the

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brain images themselves changed so

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there's certainly a point of no return

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with an Alzheimer's patient when there's

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so much destruction but if the person

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can still walk and talk we're convinced

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that they can be reversed this is

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amazing because that was actually one of

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the questions I was going to ask you on

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page 2 of my notes well India has lowest

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Alzheimer's rates in the world there are

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less than 3% and that may explain it

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right now well with the tumor being so

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prevalent in the diet the the mineral

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that's in the diet that prevents the

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aluminum deposits is boron there's three

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forms of boron in tumeric if the boron

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is in the soil and we have deficiencies

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of boron in most plants as you know and

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to turn the question over to Glenn look

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is it working I'm sorry we need to turn

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that on yeah there's a switch on the top

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I'm sorry I forgot to switch it go get

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him mention remember to mention the name

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and then your question my name

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absolutely Glen Glen thank you and last

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name like that right so while we're on

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the subject of removing mineral bad

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minerals from the body I'm aware of a

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study where homeopathic lead was used to

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treat animals with excess lead and they

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measured led in the urine and apparently

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it was able to remove lead from the body

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are there any other similar studies with

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other minerals do you think that

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homeopathic aluminum would remove

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alumina from the body and what is the

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possible mechanism of action now who are

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you asking the question - Glen anybody

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anybody okay that works for me that's

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basically the study of homeopathy it's

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the hair of the dog that bit you the

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night before type thing when you take

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things and you dilute them the more you

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dilute them the more powerful they

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become according to the theories of

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homeopathy if you're facing a

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life-and-death situation I would prefer

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to probably do chelation therapy and

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drop the metals out of the system as

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fast as possible and then replace the

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metals in the system that you need to do

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to rebuild but the theory of homeopathy

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is dilution

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more peripheral is and yes there's an

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entire science based on that do I use it

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yeah the science foundation there were

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prevalent and well known homeopathic

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medical schools throughout the United

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States and the University of Michigan

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which is one of the top 10 medical

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schools and medical institutions in the

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United States and amongst the top in the

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world had a homeopathic medical school

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as part of that but after the Flexner

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report in around nineteen six or seven I

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came in exact year all of the

547
00:24:37,570 --> 00:24:34,090
homeopathic medical schools that were

548
00:24:39,970 --> 00:24:37,580
many people in Philadelphia and many

549
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:39,980
other places were were shut down and

550
00:24:44,830 --> 00:24:43,490
that that whole area of science and

551
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:44,840
research that had been done for decades

552
00:24:52,510 --> 00:24:49,330
since the 1840s was essentially

553
00:24:55,780 --> 00:24:52,520
suppressed and no longer investigated so

554
00:24:59,490 --> 00:24:55,790
there is and the thing is throughout the

555
00:25:03,769 --> 00:24:59,500
world now in Europe homeopathic

556
00:25:05,509 --> 00:25:03,779
practices are legal and being done

557
00:25:07,969 --> 00:25:05,519
you know thousands of people are being

558
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:07,979
treated there and many governments

559
00:25:12,589 --> 00:25:10,080
throughout the the world including in

560
00:25:16,940 --> 00:25:12,599
India and and other governments of the

561
00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:16,950
world have have officially approved the

562
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:20,159
use of homeopathic medicine as a

563
00:25:25,639 --> 00:25:23,039
practice in therapy for people so this

564
00:25:27,169 --> 00:25:25,649
is one of the areas again in Western

565
00:25:35,959 --> 00:25:27,179
medicine and especially in the United

566
00:25:37,459 --> 00:25:35,969
States has suppressed very good John

567
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:37,469
thank you I do have a question for Henry

568
00:25:41,690 --> 00:25:39,210
coming up Bobby could comment first

569
00:25:44,029 --> 00:25:41,700
please Tom just please just for a second

570
00:25:46,159 --> 00:25:44,039
and that is if if the focus of the panel

571
00:25:51,049 --> 00:25:46,169
is to be on the 20 21st century medicine

572
00:25:52,969 --> 00:25:51,059
I think what rich said and John both is

573
00:25:55,310 --> 00:25:52,979
important that needs to be carried as a

574
00:25:56,930 --> 00:25:55,320
step further you were talking about

575
00:25:58,579 --> 00:25:56,940
delusions with homeopathy and how

576
00:25:59,180 --> 00:25:58,589
further dilution --zz become more

577
00:26:01,759 --> 00:25:59,190
powerful

578
00:26:03,259 --> 00:26:01,769
that's only within limits and it's

579
00:26:06,529 --> 00:26:03,269
important to remember about the notion

580
00:26:10,219 --> 00:26:06,539
of harmonics and as you dilute you get

581
00:26:12,049 --> 00:26:10,229
harmonics and those harmonics are think

582
00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:12,059
of a sine wave we've all know what that

583
00:26:15,619 --> 00:26:13,950
is you can go out further and further

584
00:26:17,060 --> 00:26:15,629
and further to the point where a true

585
00:26:19,609 --> 00:26:17,070
homeopathic physician might have a

586
00:26:22,419 --> 00:26:19,619
remedy that has nothing in it supposedly

587
00:26:26,959 --> 00:26:22,429
that is nothing detectable except energy

588
00:26:30,169 --> 00:26:26,969
right and the argument is is does water

589
00:26:34,039 --> 00:26:30,179
or saline whatever the dealio is does

590
00:26:35,930 --> 00:26:34,049
that have a potential for memory in this

591
00:26:38,989 --> 00:26:35,940
case an energetic memory that would be

592
00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:38,999
physiologically important I think Ken

593
00:26:43,969 --> 00:26:41,609
Smith started to address that yesterday

594
00:26:47,089 --> 00:26:43,979
or whatever the heck day it was in his

595
00:26:49,729 --> 00:26:47,099
presentation with respect to the placebo

596
00:26:52,459 --> 00:26:49,739
response but the idea is if we're

597
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:52,469
looking at 21st century medicine and

598
00:26:56,659 --> 00:26:54,690
trying to incorporate some of these

599
00:27:00,169 --> 00:26:56,669
notions from various cultures and so

600
00:27:01,969 --> 00:27:00,179
forth is that although we have had a

601
00:27:05,329 --> 00:27:01,979
tendency in Western medicine since

602
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:05,339
probably 1930s and 40s to focus on

603
00:27:10,940 --> 00:27:08,369
biochemistry as the ultimate answer to

604
00:27:13,639 --> 00:27:10,950
how things work that's not how things

605
00:27:15,289 --> 00:27:13,649
work even though they do work aspirin

606
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:15,299
works great for doing whatever aspirin

607
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:16,480
does

608
00:27:22,210 --> 00:27:19,730
but a lot of that activity of aspirin is

609
00:27:25,150 --> 00:27:22,220
from energy and if you can find the

610
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:25,160
energetic signature of the therapeutic

611
00:27:46,270 --> 00:27:28,370
agent that might be all you need drugs

612
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:46,280
are taken with water to energy that is

613
00:27:53,260 --> 00:27:47,570
true definitely preaching to the choir

614
00:27:56,110 --> 00:27:53,270
here yes and the thing is the John one

615
00:27:59,500 --> 00:27:56,120
of the the focus of this panel

616
00:28:03,220 --> 00:27:59,510
discussion being that of 21st century

617
00:28:05,950 --> 00:28:03,230
medicine and I see a trend that

618
00:28:08,890 --> 00:28:05,960
hopefully we're helping to promote and

619
00:28:23,890 --> 00:28:08,900
that is research in these areas of

620
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:23,900
energy medicine because being energetic

621
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:26,450
in nature absolutely yes I just want to

622
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:29,570
make a point too is that that we we're

623
00:28:34,390 --> 00:28:31,610
discovering this as an important aspect

624
00:28:36,970 --> 00:28:34,400
of the 21st century medicine but the

625
00:28:39,610 --> 00:28:36,980
fact is that these concepts were

626
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:39,620
discovered thousands of years ago in the

627
00:28:45,610 --> 00:28:42,050
Ayurvedic medical systems and in the in

628
00:28:49,540 --> 00:28:45,620
the acupuncture all system of China and

629
00:28:52,750 --> 00:28:49,550
so the Indian and the Chinese medical

630
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:52,760
systems have a preceded our current

631
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:54,890
discoveries perhaps in many ways by

632
00:28:59,050 --> 00:28:56,570
thousands of years and we should

633
00:29:01,180 --> 00:28:59,060
investigate those areas and do research

634
00:29:03,220 --> 00:29:01,190
in those areas to find out what's going

635
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:03,230
on because Western medicine still has

636
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:05,970
not figured out what's going on with

637
00:29:10,580 --> 00:29:08,640
acupuncture they haven't found any any

638
00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:10,590
mechanism because everybody's you know

639
00:29:17,090 --> 00:29:12,480
in Western medicine you have to find the

640
00:29:19,370 --> 00:29:17,100
mechanism of the we still can't explain

641
00:29:25,070 --> 00:29:19,380
how it is that is true that Israel

642
00:29:26,180 --> 00:29:25,080
occupied sure works but excellent point

643
00:29:27,410 --> 00:29:26,190
John sorry

644
00:29:29,810 --> 00:29:27,420
I'll hold you hold you up go ahead and

645
00:29:32,990 --> 00:29:29,820
ask your question yeah I'm Lorraine

646
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:33,000
Berger what needs to be done what can be

647
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:35,450
done to preserve the existence and the

648
00:29:43,220 --> 00:29:39,330
accessibility of alternative in quotes

649
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:43,230
medical modalities because it seems like

650
00:29:51,050 --> 00:29:45,930
there there are many attempts to

651
00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:51,060
eliminate them even towards anyone are

652
00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:52,320
you directing the question towards any

653
00:29:56,450 --> 00:29:55,470
speaker just the panel okay well the

654
00:29:59,720 --> 00:29:56,460
first thing you don't want to have

655
00:30:01,130 --> 00:29:59,730
passed is kodak salomon Tyrian because

656
00:30:04,610 --> 00:30:01,140
that's just gonna strip you the rights

657
00:30:07,490 --> 00:30:04,620
to have any of these basic minerals for

658
00:30:08,930 --> 00:30:07,500
life and then if you get them you may be

659
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:08,940
having to get him through genetically

660
00:30:19,340 --> 00:30:18,000
modified plants Kodak's elementary am i

661
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:19,350
believe actually may have started down

662
00:30:23,090 --> 00:30:21,090
in the back in the 60s and it's worked

663
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:23,100
its way up to the point that in europe

664
00:30:28,340 --> 00:30:25,440
you have no ability to buy vitamins and

665
00:30:30,860 --> 00:30:28,350
minerals with any concentration that

666
00:30:32,510 --> 00:30:30,870
there may be if you want to be a

667
00:30:35,060 --> 00:30:32,520
conspiracy theorist and say that there's

668
00:30:37,550 --> 00:30:35,070
a pharmaceutical approach to eliminate

669
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:37,560
all other forms of healing other than

670
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:39,840
pharmaceutical drugs and the codex

671
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:41,490
elementary has been passed in many

672
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:44,970
countries it's been passed and moat in a

673
00:30:47,780 --> 00:30:46,410
lot of countries and they're you know i

674
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:47,790
don't know why they're not rioting they

675
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:49,410
must be in florida drinking water or

676
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:52,320
something it basically is an attempt to

677
00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:55,530
eliminate any and all forms of vitamins

678
00:31:03,960 --> 00:30:56,080
and minerals

679
00:31:08,460 --> 00:31:06,510
your own personal medications or

680
00:31:12,530 --> 00:31:08,470
supplements and that kind of thing and

681
00:31:14,430 --> 00:31:12,540
to rely almost exclusively on

682
00:31:17,010 --> 00:31:14,440
pharmaceuticals and so you'll have to be

683
00:31:18,030 --> 00:31:17,020
essentially prescribed to have many of

684
00:31:20,670 --> 00:31:18,040
these things that we now get

685
00:31:24,150 --> 00:31:20,680
over-the-counter and it's a it's rather

686
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:24,160
insidious I would say and an answer to

687
00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:28,570
your question how can we there's a group

688
00:31:37,230 --> 00:31:34,510
here SS II and wise and I seem and the

689
00:31:39,390 --> 00:31:37,240
other organizations that exist we are

690
00:31:42,060 --> 00:31:39,400
the ones that can carry the ball to make

691
00:31:44,730 --> 00:31:42,070
sure that these things are not

692
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:44,740
suppressed and and we can do the

693
00:31:49,860 --> 00:31:47,440
research and make that research

694
00:31:52,590 --> 00:31:49,870
available on the internet and worldwide

695
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:52,600
so that they can't suppress them anymore

696
00:32:00,450 --> 00:31:55,690
as they have done in a number of cases

697
00:32:02,010 --> 00:32:00,460
so and the literature too can be

698
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:02,020
preserved too because some of the

699
00:32:08,940 --> 00:32:06,310
literature has been suppressed wise for

700
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:08,950
example it has a literature preservation

701
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:10,480
program and anomalies literature

702
00:32:13,260 --> 00:32:11,440
preservation

703
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:13,270
and that we've established so that we're

704
00:32:18,990 --> 00:32:15,130
going to be collecting together and

705
00:32:20,190 --> 00:32:19,000
putting in libraries around the United

706
00:32:22,110 --> 00:32:20,200
States and in different parts of the

707
00:32:23,940 --> 00:32:22,120
world the collections of the this

708
00:32:25,530 --> 00:32:23,950
alternative literature so that it can't

709
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:25,540
be gotten rid of like some of the

710
00:32:29,820 --> 00:32:27,910
literature was for example Wilhelm right

711
00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:29,830
where the FDA came in and burned his

712
00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:32,590
books and and confiscated files and

713
00:32:39,930 --> 00:32:34,720
other things that they have actually

714
00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:39,940
confiscated I would like to address your

715
00:32:43,530 --> 00:32:41,470
challenge just a little bit different

716
00:32:45,570 --> 00:32:43,540
way I think there are two things that

717
00:32:48,180 --> 00:32:45,580
need to be done to get to the endpoint

718
00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:48,190
that you're after and they are education

719
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:52,720
and activation the education is so much

720
00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:55,690
more easily done now with the web and

721
00:33:00,930 --> 00:32:59,050
the likelihood that laymen can can

722
00:33:03,090 --> 00:33:00,940
become very well informed about what's

723
00:33:03,690 --> 00:33:03,100
going on what the laymen have to get off

724
00:33:06,450 --> 00:33:03,700
their butts

725
00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:06,460
that's the activation part you can't

726
00:33:10,530 --> 00:33:08,320
just elect someone say they're gonna do

727
00:33:12,420 --> 00:33:10,540
the best thing for you you got to grab

728
00:33:14,460 --> 00:33:12,430
the rear and and beat the poop out of

729
00:33:18,060 --> 00:33:14,470
them to let them know what's going on

730
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:18,070
and we have a tendency I'm afraid to be

731
00:33:25,050 --> 00:33:22,090
far too passive all of us about it's not

732
00:33:26,610 --> 00:33:25,060
SSE or or I seems or someone and those

733
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:26,620
are great organizations but we can't

734
00:33:31,650 --> 00:33:29,200
rely on them to do the job individuals

735
00:33:33,450 --> 00:33:31,660
have to get up off their butts and say

736
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:33,460
this is wrong this is the way it should

737
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:37,110
be done a couple of positive signs that

738
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:40,000
about a decade ago the National

739
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:43,330
Institutes of Health started an office

740
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:45,850
of complementary and alternative

741
00:33:55,620 --> 00:33:51,760
medicine and there's increasing interest

742
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:55,630
in a khadeem and in practice in trying

743
00:34:06,400 --> 00:33:58,210
to study placebo they've been a number

744
00:34:09,850 --> 00:34:08,560
that Henry referred to the National

745
00:34:13,390 --> 00:34:09,860
Center for Complementary and alternative

746
00:34:15,370 --> 00:34:13,400
medicine which is one of the 26 National

747
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:15,380
Institutes for health National

748
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:17,510
Institutes for health because there are

749
00:34:22,570 --> 00:34:21,410
26 different institutes the National

750
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:22,580
Center and complementary alternative

751
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:26,720
medicine is one of those 26 it was

752
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:28,810
established because one of the senators

753
00:34:34,990 --> 00:34:31,130
what was actually a representative from

754
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:35,000
Iowa came down the form of cancer and he

755
00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:37,490
couldn't be his cancer could not be

756
00:34:42,850 --> 00:34:40,270
treated or was not treated by any of the

757
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:42,860
radiation or chemotherapy or anything

758
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:45,110
didn't respond so he had to go outside

759
00:34:52,180 --> 00:34:48,410
the country to get treatment which was

760
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:52,190
effective and in fact he went to

761
00:34:55,570 --> 00:34:53,810
Montreal and got treatment from a

762
00:34:59,500 --> 00:34:55,580
gentleman by the name of Gaston made

763
00:35:01,320 --> 00:34:59,510
sounds and and he came back and because

764
00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:01,330
of the difficult to heat as a

765
00:35:07,690 --> 00:35:04,880
reprimanded states representative had he

766
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:07,700
and Senator Tom Harkin from Iowa got

767
00:35:13,870 --> 00:35:09,490
together and said we've got to establish

768
00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:13,880
some center or something to do this

769
00:35:19,210 --> 00:35:17,990
research on these alternative alright

770
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:19,220
thank you John I want to move on to the

771
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:23,450
next question so this is just a little

772
00:35:31,350 --> 00:35:26,720
question and that is that I think there

773
00:35:36,490 --> 00:35:31,360
are certain buzzwords that end up really

774
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:36,500
making some very good ideas unpalatable

775
00:35:43,870 --> 00:35:39,710
to the majority and and so we have the

776
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:43,880
tyranny of majority experts and the

777
00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:45,200
buzzword I'm thinking of right now is

778
00:35:51,460 --> 00:35:48,320
energy medicine because energy is this

779
00:35:54,010 --> 00:35:51,470
word which I as a as a physicist have

780
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:54,020
subsumed and have we use it in a

781
00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:54,770
particular way

782
00:36:01,000 --> 00:35:58,160
is there another terminology that you

783
00:36:04,180 --> 00:36:01,010
can use instead of energy medicine that

784
00:36:05,980 --> 00:36:04,190
will describe the action that you're

785
00:36:11,770 --> 00:36:05,990
talking about and I leave

786
00:36:17,020 --> 00:36:11,780
to whoever wants to answer looking a

787
00:36:19,870 --> 00:36:17,030
logo I look at the alternative side of

788
00:36:21,609 --> 00:36:19,880
things is the weak magnetic energy I

789
00:36:24,820 --> 00:36:21,619
mean to take the word out just call it

790
00:36:26,170 --> 00:36:24,830
weak magnetic fields those patterns are

791
00:36:28,060 --> 00:36:26,180
found throughout the body

792
00:36:31,359 --> 00:36:28,070
they're reflected in iridology or foot

793
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:31,369
reflexology or auricular therapy or hand

794
00:36:35,170 --> 00:36:33,650
reflexology these patterns there's no

795
00:36:38,140 --> 00:36:35,180
place in the body that's not connected

796
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:38,150
and this constant flow of energy that we

797
00:36:42,609 --> 00:36:40,850
have in our system whether you want to

798
00:36:45,490 --> 00:36:42,619
call it an aura or a shock or an

799
00:36:48,580 --> 00:36:45,500
acupuncture meridian it's all forms of

800
00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:48,590
weak energy now strong energy is when

801
00:36:51,850 --> 00:36:49,910
you get a blood test and see what

802
00:36:55,090 --> 00:36:51,860
calcium and magnesium and sodium and

803
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:55,100
potassium and your all your nitrogen

804
00:37:00,250 --> 00:36:56,690
based testing and stuff like that that

805
00:37:01,990 --> 00:37:00,260
what I'd call that a strong energy well

806
00:37:04,510 --> 00:37:02,000
gentlemen Michael had mentioned the

807
00:37:06,970 --> 00:37:04,520
action of aspirin having to do with its

808
00:37:09,250 --> 00:37:06,980
energy as well as perhaps its chemical

809
00:37:10,990 --> 00:37:09,260
nature what does that mean and is there

810
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:11,000
a word that could be used to place of

811
00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:13,609
that I would be disinclined to use the

812
00:37:18,070 --> 00:37:16,160
word other than energy for a couple of

813
00:37:21,580 --> 00:37:18,080
reasons one is I think it's energy

814
00:37:23,830 --> 00:37:21,590
that's involved into although most of us

815
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:23,840
aren't physicists most of us have an

816
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:27,050
idea what energy is and I don't think we

817
00:37:31,990 --> 00:37:29,450
have to define it any more than that for

818
00:37:34,270 --> 00:37:32,000
the purposes of getting information out

819
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:34,280
to answer your question about what type

820
00:37:41,109 --> 00:37:39,170
of energy it is let me just give you a

821
00:37:43,210 --> 00:37:41,119
little bit of an anecdote I think

822
00:37:44,859 --> 00:37:43,220
yesterday again yesterday or the day

823
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:44,869
before whatever day it was I gave a

824
00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:47,890
little talk about tml product we call

825
00:37:55,210 --> 00:37:49,910
thimerosal for the treatment of herpes

826
00:37:57,250 --> 00:37:55,220
or sections and I can easily explain the

827
00:38:01,900 --> 00:37:57,260
mechanism of action of that to the FDA

828
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:01,910
or to some some curious individual at a

829
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:04,609
biochemical level and the answer will be

830
00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:10,010
accurate and correct and long that is to

831
00:38:14,830 --> 00:38:12,560
say that it'll be wrong in the sense

832
00:38:16,750 --> 00:38:14,840
that there's another level lab activity

833
00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:16,760
in this case of tml which is at the

834
00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:18,140
energy level

835
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:19,310
and I think I might have mentioned this

836
00:38:23,890 --> 00:38:21,890
in the talk it's not very often you as a

837
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:23,900
physician well know that you can give

838
00:38:28,930 --> 00:38:26,930
the same dose of medicine by sublingual

839
00:38:30,910 --> 00:38:28,940
drop is by sub-q infection there up

840
00:38:33,130 --> 00:38:30,920
subcu injection and get the same result

841
00:38:36,250 --> 00:38:33,140
the same amount of time that just

842
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:36,260
doesn't happen that that's just not the

843
00:38:39,730 --> 00:38:38,330
way things work however that's what we

844
00:38:41,260 --> 00:38:39,740
see with all of the medicines that we've

845
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:41,270
developed with our little company they

846
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:44,090
all work like that and so we have to

847
00:38:49,390 --> 00:38:45,530
have think up some kind of lie to

848
00:38:52,570 --> 00:38:49,400
explain what's going on and it it's back

849
00:38:54,070 --> 00:38:52,580
to this notion of energy initiating a

850
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:54,080
cascade that results in the desired

851
00:38:58,750 --> 00:38:58,130
outcome until we can better understand

852
00:39:01,240 --> 00:38:58,760
that energy

853
00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:01,250
maybe that sloppy terminology but if

854
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:02,960
interest is some of you know the guy

855
00:39:06,460 --> 00:39:04,850
named Jim maschmann up in New Hampshire

856
00:39:10,330 --> 00:39:06,470
who has written a great book called

857
00:39:13,930 --> 00:39:10,340
cleverly energy medicine and I think

858
00:39:17,620 --> 00:39:13,940
that term energy right now is vital no

859
00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:17,630
pun intended to getting the word out to

860
00:39:25,180 --> 00:39:20,480
this other level of activity in the body

861
00:39:27,310 --> 00:39:25,190
okay thank you John Garrett okay go

862
00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:27,320
ahead sir - Garrett's question would be

863
00:39:45,740 --> 00:39:42,900
more technical they may not think that

864
00:39:48,510 --> 00:39:45,750
we could have that and we as

865
00:39:51,150 --> 00:39:48,520
intellectuals and researchers we can

866
00:39:54,570 --> 00:39:51,160
maybe describe it in some other way with

867
00:39:57,540 --> 00:39:54,580
with weak energy aspects and ripe and go

868
00:40:00,120 --> 00:39:57,550
to the below the proton a neutron level

869
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:00,130
to describe what's going on but I think

870
00:40:07,890 --> 00:40:06,310
energy medicine for the there's a good

871
00:40:08,940 --> 00:40:07,900
point vibrational medicine things like

872
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:08,950
that they just don't have as much

873
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:10,450
meaning you know time nuclear nuclear

874
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:12,370
magnetic resonance scared the pants off

875
00:40:14,910 --> 00:40:13,510
of people when they started calling him

876
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,920
mine MRI the everybody got one that

877
00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:16,720
scares the pants off of me too

878
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:18,310
next question I'm so glad I came up with

879
00:40:25,230 --> 00:40:22,090
that list of questions go ahead hi my

880
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:25,240
name is Sean Lakshmanan and just have

881
00:40:35,130 --> 00:40:30,930
some opinions on what we were discussing

882
00:40:38,340 --> 00:40:35,140
mostly people were talking about you

883
00:40:40,950 --> 00:40:38,350
know the chemicals getting into our body

884
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:40,960
and then shooting or alternative

885
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:43,690
medicines but we have so many

886
00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:48,850
alternative preventive methods that you

887
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:51,310
don't have to pay or do anything just

888
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:54,130
have a process that you continue to do

889
00:41:01,680 --> 00:40:58,210
and you can cure yourself and these are

890
00:41:04,830 --> 00:41:01,690
available in various organization it's

891
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:04,840
free and everybody can do it so that you

892
00:41:08,910 --> 00:41:07,090
don't make products and keep on selling

893
00:41:12,510 --> 00:41:08,920
and you know when you try to sell one

894
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:12,520
product then you make money then you

895
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:15,130
want to find another product so the

896
00:41:20,490 --> 00:41:18,310
money will drive everybody so ultimately

897
00:41:23,610 --> 00:41:20,500
what the everything should be free in

898
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:23,620
this universe and we have the potential

899
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:26,710
and source the ancient science has given

900
00:41:32,610 --> 00:41:29,920
for example in my culture I didn't know

901
00:41:34,530 --> 00:41:32,620
like we have to know the basics of

902
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:34,540
science to understand healing

903
00:41:40,260 --> 00:41:38,530
I don't want science I just heal III for

904
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:40,270
example I did not take medicine for

905
00:41:45,390 --> 00:41:43,330
several you know 15-20 years until you

906
00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:45,400
know my parents after the Western

907
00:41:49,020 --> 00:41:46,720
medicine came they gave some medicine

908
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:49,030
some time and I should answer that

909
00:41:52,830 --> 00:41:50,530
because John Reed was actually talking

910
00:41:54,270 --> 00:41:52,840
about that is that they they had a lot

911
00:41:55,740 --> 00:41:54,280
of knowledge of this a few

912
00:41:57,210 --> 00:41:55,750
and years ago but they didn't know why

913
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:57,220
and so that's kind of what you're

914
00:42:00,000 --> 00:41:58,330
mentioning right now is you don't

915
00:42:02,010 --> 00:42:00,010
necessarily have to know the science but

916
00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:02,020
you know that it works you now today

917
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:03,910
we're starting to get to the point where

918
00:42:13,770 --> 00:42:05,170
we're understanding it a little bit

919
00:42:17,490 --> 00:42:13,780
better so the point is like when you

920
00:42:19,830 --> 00:42:17,500
have preventive methods and if that can

921
00:42:23,310 --> 00:42:19,840
be produced as a science it can be given

922
00:42:26,820 --> 00:42:23,320
to the public and of course like to

923
00:42:30,290 --> 00:42:26,830
organizations that can do it freely for

924
00:42:32,370 --> 00:42:30,300
people to get the benefit then you know

925
00:42:34,650 --> 00:42:32,380
we can even prevent

926
00:42:37,410 --> 00:42:34,660
of course we can go for the level of

927
00:42:39,660 --> 00:42:37,420
medicines whichever works out like other

928
00:42:40,290 --> 00:42:39,670
alternative medicines okay this is first

929
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:40,300
degree

930
00:42:47,490 --> 00:42:44,050
there are even even more than Ayurvedic

931
00:42:50,490 --> 00:42:47,500
there are like herbal remedies they take

932
00:42:52,530 --> 00:42:50,500
like one herbal and it just it cures

933
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:52,540
everything you know so there are so many

934
00:42:57,060 --> 00:42:55,090
things hidden if you can learn the

935
00:43:05,420 --> 00:42:57,070
science and this is a great forum that

936
00:43:07,860 --> 00:43:05,430
we can you know place in relation to the

937
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:07,870
21st century medicine and the future of

938
00:43:13,830 --> 00:43:10,330
Medicine I see preventive medicine which

939
00:43:17,370 --> 00:43:13,840
happens to be my medical specialty Johns

940
00:43:20,210 --> 00:43:17,380
Hopkins I think that that is one of the

941
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:20,220
future trends is prevention

942
00:43:26,570 --> 00:43:24,250
the ancient a Chinese medical system and

943
00:43:29,820 --> 00:43:26,580
even today is based on prevention

944
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:29,830
whereas Western medicine is a treatment

945
00:43:34,330 --> 00:43:33,040
and cure mostly of symptoms but the

946
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:34,340
Western medicine has

947
00:43:39,790 --> 00:43:37,250
additionally waited until someone had a

948
00:43:43,540 --> 00:43:39,800
malady of some kind it got sick and then

949
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:43,550
attempted to to cure it whereas the

950
00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:46,250
ancient systems of Ayurvedic medicine in

951
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:50,240
India and the herbal medicine system and

952
00:43:55,180 --> 00:43:52,010
acupuncture well our commercial was a

953
00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:55,190
treatment of some the herbal medicine of

954
00:44:03,220 --> 00:43:58,850
ancient China of which there are more

955
00:44:07,390 --> 00:44:03,230
than 150,000 different herbal treatments

956
00:44:08,530 --> 00:44:07,400
was based prevention okay john McMichael

957
00:44:10,930 --> 00:44:08,540
go ahead you say you want to make a

958
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:10,940
comment yes relative again to 21st

959
00:44:16,210 --> 00:44:13,490
century medicine I had two pleasure last

960
00:44:17,710 --> 00:44:16,220
week of talking to a member an

961
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:17,720
individual who was a member of the board

962
00:44:22,270 --> 00:44:20,330
of directors of WellPoint I don't you

963
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:22,280
probably know well point I think that's

964
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:24,410
the second largest in health insurance

965
00:44:30,070 --> 00:44:27,710
group in the country and he was telling

966
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:30,080
me that well point is earmarking 1

967
00:44:41,290 --> 00:44:39,310
decreasing medical costs so that money

968
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:41,300
is going to go to physicians into groups

969
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:44,210
who are looking more as john said at

970
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:46,400
preventive medicine techniques of that

971
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:49,370
sort with the idea of it's quite

972
00:44:54,910 --> 00:44:51,520
mercenary in the part of well points

973
00:44:56,740 --> 00:44:54,920
aside because by having better health

974
00:44:59,680 --> 00:44:56,750
they have to pay out fewer premium or

975
00:45:01,930 --> 00:44:59,690
fewer fewer payments to sick people but

976
00:45:04,090 --> 00:45:01,940
I thought it was really encouraging that

977
00:45:06,940 --> 00:45:04,100
a company of that size is earmarking

978
00:45:08,260 --> 00:45:06,950
that kind of dollars for the very sort

979
00:45:09,220 --> 00:45:08,270
of thing that John's talking about it's

980
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:09,230
only for money though they're actually

981
00:45:20,770 --> 00:45:11,210
doing it only to save money so that's

982
00:45:22,690 --> 00:45:20,780
just fine exactly I know the intention

983
00:45:23,860 --> 00:45:22,700
may not be as pure but I see what you're

984
00:45:25,390 --> 00:45:23,870
saying after Richard already go ahead

985
00:45:27,970 --> 00:45:25,400
you have something to say I believe the

986
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:27,980
Western diet and the food chain has been

987
00:45:33,490 --> 00:45:31,730
so fractionalized that we broken the

988
00:45:36,750 --> 00:45:33,500
food products down and everything has to

989
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:36,760
be reconstituted with synthetic vitamins

990
00:45:41,170 --> 00:45:39,410
we have no iodine 80 percent of the

991
00:45:43,420 --> 00:45:41,180
country is out of iodine now that's a

992
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:43,430
prevention at the turn of the century of

993
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:45,110
the last century iodine was added to

994
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:47,490
everything it was added to bread

995
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:50,610
now the iodine went out of the way if

996
00:45:53,570 --> 00:45:52,290
you wanted to get a loaf of bread and

997
00:45:55,490 --> 00:45:53,580
you look at it they have to put the

998
00:45:57,740 --> 00:45:55,500
vitamins back into it our children eat

999
00:46:00,080 --> 00:45:57,750
white flour with synthetic vitamins

1000
00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:00,090
added back to it if you want to do

1001
00:46:03,860 --> 00:46:01,710
prevention you have to start looking at

1002
00:46:05,330 --> 00:46:03,870
Whole Foods again the whole Western diet

1003
00:46:07,070 --> 00:46:05,340
has just been stripped of minerals

1004
00:46:10,220 --> 00:46:07,080
stripped of vitamins it's nothing but a

1005
00:46:11,450 --> 00:46:10,230
bunch of carbohydrates and then it take

1006
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:11,460
the gluten and they lines your

1007
00:46:14,420 --> 00:46:12,720
intestinal tract you go into

1008
00:46:16,940 --> 00:46:14,430
malabsorption we have the glice a

1009
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:16,950
phosphate problem that's stripping all

1010
00:46:19,970 --> 00:46:18,510
the foods of all the minerals we eat the

1011
00:46:21,950 --> 00:46:19,980
glice ate it kills all the bacteria in

1012
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:21,960
our gut our immune system is completely

1013
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:23,850
stripped so we go to doctors in good

1014
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:26,850
faith and doctors in good faith the

1015
00:46:30,290 --> 00:46:28,410
medical doctors and I'm sorry there's

1016
00:46:32,420 --> 00:46:30,300
one medical doctor I know that's trained

1017
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:32,430
in alternative care but I can't name

1018
00:46:36,740 --> 00:46:34,530
many that even know what a vitamin is or

1019
00:46:38,510 --> 00:46:36,750
a mineral is I mean the biggest thing

1020
00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:38,520
that I see people coming in with they're

1021
00:46:41,900 --> 00:46:40,110
sick they're they're out of water

1022
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:41,910
I just don't flat out have any water

1023
00:46:46,370 --> 00:46:43,890
they think living on Mountain Dew and

1024
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:46,380
Gatorade and Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi

1025
00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:49,200
and ask 14 and Splenda just happens to

1026
00:46:53,390 --> 00:46:50,910
be a normal way to go do you have strong

1027
00:46:55,790 --> 00:46:53,400
opinions about this no or no okay all

1028
00:47:00,260 --> 00:46:55,800
right next question Carl go ahead yes

1029
00:47:01,430 --> 00:47:00,270
John you mentioned the NIH is department

1030
00:47:04,010 --> 00:47:01,440
of alternative and complementary

1031
00:47:06,110 --> 00:47:04,020
medicine and I kind of have a kind of a

1032
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:06,120
question issue perspective is that it

1033
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:08,610
seems like in that title at least the

1034
00:47:13,070 --> 00:47:10,890
latter part complimentary is that it

1035
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:13,080
it's the problem is that it leaves

1036
00:47:19,550 --> 00:47:16,050
allopathic medicine is still the arbiter

1037
00:47:21,830 --> 00:47:19,560
in control of you know so they're

1038
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:21,840
calling the shots we might invite a

1039
00:47:24,740 --> 00:47:23,130
little bit of input from the other

1040
00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:24,750
people but our paradigm is still

1041
00:47:30,770 --> 00:47:28,470
preserved and therefore the fundamental

1042
00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:30,780
analysis that needs to take place never

1043
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:46,200
that current paradigm as part of their

1044
00:47:52,660 --> 00:47:50,930
philosophical outlook and so the that

1045
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:52,670
that will be there and probably will

1046
00:47:58,660 --> 00:47:55,970
remain there in place but it has changed

1047
00:48:00,970 --> 00:47:58,670
a little as Henry that pointed out and

1048
00:48:03,730 --> 00:48:00,980
that is a good step forward even though

1049
00:48:07,450 --> 00:48:03,740
it took place in Maine in the 1990s in

1050
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:07,460
it and it required a senator and someone

1051
00:48:10,990 --> 00:48:09,410
not being able to be treated in the

1052
00:48:13,450 --> 00:48:11,000
United States there have been thousands

1053
00:48:15,310 --> 00:48:13,460
prior to that but it you know when it

1054
00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:15,320
was a senator well that people need

1055
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:18,560
attention so it is a step forward

1056
00:48:23,170 --> 00:48:20,810
although as you point out there the

1057
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:23,180
allopathic physicians through the AMA

1058
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:25,010
and through the revolving door of the

1059
00:48:30,730 --> 00:48:28,730
FDA what the pharmaceutical companies

1060
00:48:36,970 --> 00:48:30,740
are still largely in control of what

1061
00:48:39,010 --> 00:48:36,980
goes on and but fortunately there and

1062
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:39,020
there was one point I forgot to I wanted

1063
00:48:42,670 --> 00:48:40,880
to add is that in the case of El

1064
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:42,680
pantheon home and homeopathy they're

1065
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:46,130
fairly antagonistic you know there is I

1066
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:47,920
think little middle ground in a lot of

1067
00:48:53,020 --> 00:48:50,240
perspectives on disease between the two

1068
00:48:54,990 --> 00:48:53,030
schools of thought oh well there's a

1069
00:49:00,460 --> 00:48:55,000
great deal of I'm taking dissemination

1070
00:49:02,970 --> 00:49:00,470
absolutely additional physician very

1071
00:49:15,010 --> 00:49:02,980
antagonistic towards any other system

1072
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:15,020
essentially okay John what I wanted to

1073
00:49:17,590 --> 00:49:15,920
say if I got to say it's at the

1074
00:49:19,570 --> 00:49:17,600
beginning we will be stopping the panel

1075
00:49:21,730 --> 00:49:19,580
at 5:50 that's actually the scheduled

1076
00:49:23,740 --> 00:49:21,740
time for the panel to end and I wanted

1077
00:49:25,150 --> 00:49:23,750
you to know that I'm not gonna go 90

1078
00:49:26,830 --> 00:49:25,160
minutes on the panel and let an

1079
00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:26,840
hour-and-a-half dinner go so we will be

1080
00:49:30,130 --> 00:49:28,880
stopping at the scheduled time even

1081
00:49:32,380 --> 00:49:30,140
though we started a little bit late just

1082
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:32,390
wanted to make that quick note please

1083
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:33,410
ask your next question

1084
00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:36,290
I'm Vijaya from the University of

1085
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:39,730
Colorado and this question is for John

1086
00:49:46,990 --> 00:49:44,240
you are you are into preventive medicine

1087
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:47,000
I and you said many things about our

1088
00:49:52,810 --> 00:49:49,490
Veda I want to share with you and the

1089
00:49:55,099 --> 00:49:52,820
audience the three pillars of our Veda

1090
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:55,109
that everybody will appreciate

1091
00:50:02,749 --> 00:50:00,960
here in this room one is food and the

1092
00:50:05,450 --> 00:50:02,759
panelist here mentioned that in the

1093
00:50:08,569 --> 00:50:05,460
United States for his own reflection I

1094
00:50:10,420 --> 00:50:08,579
stripped his junk food so there is a

1095
00:50:14,329 --> 00:50:10,430
problem there that needs to be fixed

1096
00:50:18,370 --> 00:50:14,339
people need to eat nutritious food how

1097
00:50:21,470 --> 00:50:18,380
do we get that message to them because

1098
00:50:25,009 --> 00:50:21,480
it's a conflict of interest with the big

1099
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:25,019
pharma the big egg business the Monsanto

1100
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:28,880
the North so that's one number two

1101
00:50:38,180 --> 00:50:34,410
exercise without exercise is no-go

1102
00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:38,190
situation and number three stress

1103
00:50:43,130 --> 00:50:41,609
reduction or relaxation so on all the

1104
00:50:45,559 --> 00:50:43,140
three friends if you look at the

1105
00:50:48,019 --> 00:50:45,569
American population they are failing

1106
00:50:50,539 --> 00:50:48,029
miserably so I can make a prediction

1107
00:50:53,089 --> 00:50:50,549
standing right here based on our way

1108
00:50:55,759 --> 00:50:53,099
though that people are going to get sick

1109
00:50:59,420 --> 00:50:55,769
no wonder you are spending 2.3 trillion

1110
00:51:02,180 --> 00:50:59,430
dollars a year in health care or the

1111
00:51:04,279 --> 00:51:02,190
disease maintenance system so there is

1112
00:51:06,620 --> 00:51:04,289
something very fundamental in terms of

1113
00:51:10,370 --> 00:51:06,630
the existing paradigm so the challenge

1114
00:51:14,089 --> 00:51:10,380
is John to begin the education through

1115
00:51:16,970 --> 00:51:14,099
research and the ancient science which

1116
00:51:21,650 --> 00:51:16,980
is already here to communicate to

1117
00:51:25,249 --> 00:51:21,660
disseminate thank you yes fortunately

1118
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:25,259
have those three last two did you

1119
00:51:30,349 --> 00:51:28,650
mention the exercise and the stress

1120
00:51:32,989 --> 00:51:30,359
reduction are things that we can

1121
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:32,999
individually do so I think an answer to

1122
00:51:40,780 --> 00:51:37,170
your question the education and the

1123
00:51:46,300 --> 00:51:43,630
people to engage in exercise which has

1124
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:46,310
been going on you know in regular

1125
00:51:53,890 --> 00:51:51,650
society and a lot of educational venues

1126
00:51:57,100 --> 00:51:53,900
that is being promoted which is a good

1127
00:52:01,600 --> 00:51:57,110
sign in relating in relation to the food

1128
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:01,610
and because we were almost at the mercy

1129
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:06,890
of the large big egg and big chemical

1130
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:08,930
you know I'm sad too you mentioned and

1131
00:52:14,410 --> 00:52:11,690
big pharmaceutical big pharma I guess

1132
00:52:17,740 --> 00:52:14,420
they call it we're almost at the mercy

1133
00:52:22,260 --> 00:52:17,750
of them or your average person is that

1134
00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:24,760
disseminate knowledge about that and

1135
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:26,960
what is going on the truth behind the

1136
00:52:33,490 --> 00:52:29,530
egg business and the truth behind the

1137
00:52:35,470 --> 00:52:33,500
pharmaceutical business and the chemical

1138
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:35,480
business and point out these things that

1139
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:40,610
that Richard and John and Henry have

1140
00:52:45,070 --> 00:52:43,520
pointed out in presentations of what is

1141
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:45,080
actually going on and the effects that

1142
00:52:48,670 --> 00:52:46,850
they're having on our bodies and I think

1143
00:52:53,380 --> 00:52:48,680
that through that educational process

1144
00:52:55,930 --> 00:52:53,390
and the research that we SS e are doing

1145
00:52:58,240 --> 00:52:55,940
and that wise and I see in numerous

1146
00:53:00,130 --> 00:52:58,250
other organ and I asked numbers other

1147
00:53:04,380 --> 00:53:00,140
organizations that will be able to

1148
00:53:08,260 --> 00:53:06,849
yeah because Henry Bowers on two panels

1149
00:53:09,940 --> 00:53:08,270
I love the fact that you're giving him a

1150
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:09,950
break he really does appreciate the

1151
00:53:14,170 --> 00:53:11,930
break Richard you had a quick comment

1152
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:14,180
that you said you wanted yeah if it'll

1153
00:53:19,210 --> 00:53:16,210
be coming up if you have any way of

1154
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:19,220
pushing anybody you know the initiative

1155
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:21,530
of getting GMO labeling is going to

1156
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:23,810
start in California and this has to pass

1157
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:25,520
somewhere and I'm hoping California will

1158
00:53:29,650 --> 00:53:27,530
be the first state the average young

1159
00:53:31,330 --> 00:53:29,660
adult eats ten meals a week right now

1160
00:53:33,070 --> 00:53:31,340
and that's all they're eating and the

1161
00:53:34,810 --> 00:53:33,080
answer to exercise if we could just send

1162
00:53:36,370 --> 00:53:34,820
all the young adults a test that said

1163
00:53:37,570 --> 00:53:36,380
stand up and sit down that might be more

1164
00:53:42,210 --> 00:53:37,580
exercise than they're currently getting

1165
00:53:44,530 --> 00:53:42,220
I thank you next question please

1166
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:44,540
yes I wanted to speak to the issue of

1167
00:53:49,690 --> 00:53:46,609
nomenclature that Garrett brought up

1168
00:53:52,540 --> 00:53:49,700
earlier I think respect patience and

1169
00:53:53,740 --> 00:53:52,550
translation are really key in what's

1170
00:53:56,980 --> 00:53:53,750
happening right now we're in a real

1171
00:53:59,290 --> 00:53:56,990
transition space and I think SSE wise

1172
00:54:02,140 --> 00:53:59,300
and all the other groups are in a key

1173
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:02,150
spot to help make that happen in a

1174
00:54:08,740 --> 00:54:06,050
really big way however we do have to

1175
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:08,750
remember that there's a cross cultural

1176
00:54:15,550 --> 00:54:12,530
as well as an interdisciplinary aspect

1177
00:54:17,980 --> 00:54:15,560
here that has to be respected we need to

1178
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:17,990
be patient as we listen and learn about

1179
00:54:21,820 --> 00:54:20,000
it and we have to understand that

1180
00:54:24,190 --> 00:54:21,830
there's a translation even if it's in

1181
00:54:25,780 --> 00:54:24,200
English from words like energy to

1182
00:54:27,849 --> 00:54:25,790
something else and those of us who are

1183
00:54:30,550 --> 00:54:27,859
already attempting to do that sometimes

1184
00:54:32,170 --> 00:54:30,560
stand on our heads so that when we're

1185
00:54:35,380 --> 00:54:32,180
speaking to a group that's primarily

1186
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:35,390
made up of Western scientists we can we

1187
00:54:39,820 --> 00:54:37,760
use one form of language and try to

1188
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:39,830
translate and when we speak to folks who

1189
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:41,810
are more familiar with these kinds of

1190
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:44,000
things in in less than the Western

1191
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:47,210
science terminology we we kind of deal

1192
00:54:53,260 --> 00:54:49,609
with that too and I see this as

1193
00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:53,270
extraordinarily important and that's my

1194
00:54:57,780 --> 00:54:55,250
biggest comment on what I've heard so

1195
00:55:01,420 --> 00:54:57,790
far all right thank you for that comment

1196
00:55:04,730 --> 00:55:01,430
next question good evening my name is

1197
00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:04,740
Manuel Rivera from Puerto Rico and

1198
00:55:09,050 --> 00:55:07,200
my question is related to what's been

1199
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:09,060
talking about right now food and

1200
00:55:16,579 --> 00:55:12,410
nutrition and it's a follow-up question

1201
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:16,589
from the gentleman before me as I also

1202
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,570
think education and spreading the

1203
00:55:22,820 --> 00:55:20,640
message is extremely important but

1204
00:55:24,910 --> 00:55:22,830
people like me already got the message

1205
00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:24,920
we still have the problem of

1206
00:55:32,260 --> 00:55:29,609
availability of access to quality food

1207
00:55:34,970 --> 00:55:32,270
sources so my question is the following

1208
00:55:37,010 --> 00:55:34,980
given that most of us have extremely

1209
00:55:40,430 --> 00:55:37,020
limited options due to GMOs pesticides

1210
00:55:42,290 --> 00:55:40,440
etc but could these limitations be

1211
00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:42,300
overcome with urban small-scale

1212
00:55:53,270 --> 00:55:44,400
gardening techniques such as hydroponic

1213
00:56:02,290 --> 00:55:53,280
food production well there has been a

1214
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:05,540
whatever they've converted these spaces

1215
00:56:12,740 --> 00:56:09,930
into Gardens a urban garden so to speak

1216
00:56:20,930 --> 00:56:12,750
and the and people have started to do

1217
00:56:23,150 --> 00:56:20,940
that so that is certainly space as far

1218
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:23,160
as hydroponics as you know the

1219
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:25,650
technology of that is not something that

1220
00:56:30,380 --> 00:56:28,050
the average person can do so they

1221
00:56:32,780 --> 00:56:30,390
couldn't go out and start a hydroponic

1222
00:56:33,850 --> 00:56:32,790
garden very easily without having a

1223
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:33,860
specialized

1224
00:57:07,720 --> 00:56:36,050
they also usually like the bacteria the

1225
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:07,730
fungi that are in the soil - Richard

1226
00:57:10,690 --> 00:57:09,050
first you're going to comment that I'll

1227
00:57:13,180 --> 00:57:10,700
move over you - John McMichael well the

1228
00:57:15,670 --> 00:57:13,190
farm to consumer direct is the way the

1229
00:57:17,830 --> 00:57:15,680
small farm would like to operate I would

1230
00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:17,840
just love to go to my organic dairy

1231
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:20,960
farmer and buy a - raw milk however the

1232
00:57:24,340 --> 00:57:22,850
the farm factories the people that

1233
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:24,350
provide the majority the food are trying

1234
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:26,090
to make this completely impossible for

1235
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:28,400
you to do now this came out yesterday

1236
00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:30,110
when you look at every one of those

1237
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:31,760
fruits you buy and they have the

1238
00:57:36,250 --> 00:57:33,650
stickers on them every everything has a

1239
00:57:38,500 --> 00:57:36,260
sticker on it if that food sticker

1240
00:57:44,370 --> 00:57:38,510
starts with an eighth that's genetically

1241
00:57:47,290 --> 00:57:44,380
modified John McMichael go ahead I think

1242
00:57:49,570 --> 00:57:47,300
with respect to the last question or

1243
00:57:51,340 --> 00:57:49,580
comment you might want to read some

1244
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:51,350
material written by a guy named Lynn

1245
00:57:57,430 --> 00:57:54,650
Miller who was probably one of the most

1246
00:58:00,730 --> 00:57:57,440
prolific writers in this country about

1247
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:00,740
this idea of food to home and so forth

1248
00:58:06,010 --> 00:58:03,410
he's the editor and the founder of

1249
00:58:07,090 --> 00:58:06,020
what's called a small farmer Journal but

1250
00:58:08,590 --> 00:58:07,100
he also goes around the country

1251
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:08,600
lecturing he's got an awful lot of

1252
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:10,370
information available on the web

1253
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:13,520
it's ly n Miller Lynn Miller and he

1254
00:58:17,950 --> 00:58:15,290
would give you some good ideas of how to

1255
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:17,960
go about tackling this whole problem all

1256
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:19,010
right thank you next question please

1257
00:58:24,110 --> 00:58:22,170
excuse me I

1258
00:58:25,790 --> 00:58:24,120
watch it John doesn't have a watch and

1259
00:58:28,340 --> 00:58:25,800
how well how much time do we have left

1260
00:58:30,260 --> 00:58:28,350
because there are a couple of trend 22

1261
00:58:30,530 --> 00:58:30,270
minutes 22 minutes we are running out of

1262
00:58:31,970 --> 00:58:30,540
time

1263
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:31,980
yes it's really the German there are a

1264
00:58:35,060 --> 00:58:33,690
couple of trends in 21st century

1265
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:35,070
medicine that I wanted to bring up that

1266
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:37,290
have had virtually been unmentioned yet

1267
00:58:41,540 --> 00:58:39,210
and I want to get to them and make sure

1268
00:58:45,770 --> 00:58:41,550
you get to so before the next person

1269
00:59:00,100 --> 00:58:45,780
asks a question you may give it a shot

1270
00:59:08,270 --> 00:59:02,420
could be used as a potential treatment

1271
00:59:12,140 --> 00:59:08,280
for the disorder that is the trend

1272
00:59:14,690 --> 00:59:12,150
towards in towards immune enhancement as

1273
00:59:17,420 --> 00:59:14,700
a therapy for people that was a

1274
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:17,430
treatment for people rather than as a

1275
00:59:23,450 --> 00:59:21,570
reliance on pharmaceuticals and we've

1276
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:23,460
heard about the very important research

1277
00:59:29,870 --> 00:59:25,410
of Bill Bengston who's been doing

1278
00:59:32,490 --> 00:59:29,880
research in immune enhancement and from

1279
00:59:35,250 --> 00:59:32,500
from my perspective I believe that

1280
00:59:39,630 --> 00:59:35,260
enhancement whether it is an immune

1281
00:59:44,790 --> 00:59:39,640
enhancement due to their in enhancing

1282
00:59:47,670 --> 00:59:44,800
the placebo effect or enhancing the the

1283
00:59:50,310 --> 00:59:47,680
immune system through increasing the

1284
00:59:53,940 --> 00:59:50,320
concentration of NK cells which which

1285
00:59:57,180 --> 00:59:53,950
attack cancer and other forms of other

1286
01:00:02,940 --> 00:59:57,190
types of cells and viruses and that kind

1287
01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:02,950
of thing or through the through the in

1288
01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:05,520
the replacement of the or or the

1289
01:00:11,010 --> 01:00:08,710
reinvigoration of the thymus gland which

1290
01:00:12,990 --> 01:00:11,020
involute when a person is in their teens

1291
01:00:15,210 --> 01:00:13,000
and continues to go down this is the

1292
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:15,220
little organ that's in the chest that

1293
01:00:19,140 --> 01:00:17,170
creates the T cells and many other in

1294
01:00:21,060 --> 01:00:19,150
him cells of the body and then

1295
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:21,070
throughout one's life that decreases so

1296
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:23,440
if we can develop a means to reverse

1297
01:00:28,650 --> 01:00:25,810
that involution we would be able to

1298
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:28,660
maintain an immune system that we have

1299
01:00:42,650 --> 01:00:30,250
centrally had when we were teenagers

1300
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:42,660
that's why people so the research that

1301
01:00:55,050 --> 01:00:53,530
other people John the number one mineral

1302
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:55,060
that's hyper accumulated in the thymus

1303
01:00:59,520 --> 01:00:57,490
gland is manganese and the number one

1304
01:01:01,740 --> 01:00:59,530
mineral that's sequestered in the soil

1305
01:01:05,339 --> 01:01:01,750
made not available to plants from glice

1306
01:01:08,790 --> 01:01:05,349
eight is manganese so is there a

1307
01:01:12,260 --> 01:01:08,800
connection sort of okay well the things

1308
01:01:15,540 --> 01:01:12,270
that Henry yeah please

1309
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:15,550
one of the things that is becoming more

1310
01:01:22,589 --> 01:01:18,960
generally recognized is that the

1311
01:01:25,620 --> 01:01:22,599
microflora in the gut are a very

1312
01:01:30,570 --> 01:01:25,630
important part of the immune system and

1313
01:01:37,410 --> 01:01:30,580
a gay man who has been hiv-positive for

1314
01:01:41,879 --> 01:01:37,420
20 years has remained healthy by a very

1315
01:01:45,370 --> 01:01:41,889
careful probiotic diet

1316
01:01:47,649 --> 01:01:45,380
thank you for that contribution John

1317
01:01:52,689 --> 01:01:47,659
McMichael yep just a quick comment about

1318
01:01:55,709 --> 01:01:52,699
the immune response the there's real

1319
01:01:58,719 --> 01:01:55,719
danger in hyping the immune response and

1320
01:02:00,579 --> 01:01:58,729
one has to be careful because an awful

1321
01:02:02,949 --> 01:02:00,589
lot of diseases that we associate with

1322
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:02,959
the elderly are caused by an immune

1323
01:02:07,419 --> 01:02:04,130
response it's out of control

1324
01:02:09,459 --> 01:02:07,429
and so these diseases have an autoimmune

1325
01:02:11,169 --> 01:02:09,469
component that is to say the body's

1326
01:02:12,969 --> 01:02:11,179
attacking itself everything from

1327
01:02:15,419 --> 01:02:12,979
rheumatoid arthritis to even some forms

1328
01:02:18,689 --> 01:02:15,429
of osteoarthritis and so forth

1329
01:02:20,649 --> 01:02:18,699
the immune response has one population

1330
01:02:22,989 --> 01:02:20,659
subpopulation of cells that are some

1331
01:02:24,419 --> 01:02:22,999
people call suppressor T AIDS and not

1332
01:02:27,609 --> 01:02:24,429
for this to be a lecture in immunology

1333
01:02:29,949 --> 01:02:27,619
but to suppressor th do exactly what the

1334
01:02:32,289 --> 01:02:29,959
name suggests they are suppressor cells

1335
01:02:34,359 --> 01:02:32,299
they suppress other cells in the immune

1336
01:02:36,429 --> 01:02:34,369
response they are also the most

1337
01:02:39,039 --> 01:02:36,439
sensitive cells we have in our body to

1338
01:02:41,919 --> 01:02:39,049
environmental insults as a consequence

1339
01:02:44,469 --> 01:02:41,929
of that as we get older or depending on

1340
01:02:46,899 --> 01:02:44,479
environments we are in the suppressor T

1341
01:02:49,239 --> 01:02:46,909
cells themselves can be suppressed and

1342
01:02:52,329 --> 01:02:49,249
the consequence of that is an immune

1343
01:02:54,909 --> 01:02:52,339
response that can't shut off my point in

1344
01:02:59,019 --> 01:02:54,919
bringing this up is that one of the best

1345
01:03:01,539 --> 01:02:59,029
ways to control the immune response and

1346
01:03:05,379 --> 01:03:01,549
keep a healthy immune response is to

1347
01:03:07,859 --> 01:03:05,389
avoid pollution so don't eat don't drink

1348
01:03:12,039 --> 01:03:07,869
it you'll be fine don't breathe either

1349
01:03:14,649 --> 01:03:12,049
but the real problem is not in the body

1350
01:03:17,289 --> 01:03:14,659
there directly it's what the environment

1351
01:03:18,999 --> 01:03:17,299
is giving to us that is knocking off

1352
01:03:23,199 --> 01:03:19,009
these cells that are so doggone

1353
01:03:25,749 --> 01:03:23,209
sensitive and whoever Henry you're the

1354
01:03:28,299 --> 01:03:25,759
one that brought up about the the gut

1355
01:03:29,620 --> 01:03:28,309
flora you're right on target and

1356
01:03:31,779 --> 01:03:29,630
yesterday there's a little bit of

1357
01:03:34,779 --> 01:03:31,789
talking in the group here about autism

1358
01:03:37,269 --> 01:03:34,789
which is truly a gut disease that's not

1359
01:03:40,779 --> 01:03:37,279
a brain disease it's a gut disease and

1360
01:03:44,139 --> 01:03:40,789
it's the same sort of problem and these

1361
01:03:46,599 --> 01:03:44,149
gut diseases whether the HIV or Asia or

1362
01:03:48,579 --> 01:03:46,609
the AIDS patient or the the autism

1363
01:03:51,759 --> 01:03:48,589
patients or us that we think are

1364
01:03:53,529 --> 01:03:51,769
generally healthy it's it's discont

1365
01:03:54,100 --> 01:03:53,539
Amanita environment that's really not

1366
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:54,110
gonna

1367
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:56,210
I think I've heard that about 95% of

1368
01:04:00,400 --> 01:03:58,130
diseases are cut diseases have I heard

1369
01:04:02,710 --> 01:04:00,410
that Richard Akers 80% 80

1370
01:04:04,810 --> 01:04:02,720
oh I thought it was okay don't you hi

1371
01:04:06,780 --> 01:04:04,820
80% when you're born you know if your

1372
01:04:10,750 --> 01:04:06,790
mother and a lobster breast feed you

1373
01:04:12,100 --> 01:04:10,760
you're given the first anything that

1374
01:04:14,020 --> 01:04:12,110
enters your mouth is going to be

1375
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:14,030
colostrum and it's by full bacteria

1376
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:15,890
along them in your given ample amounts

1377
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:18,170
of bacteria to digest your food and I've

1378
01:04:21,460 --> 01:04:19,970
seen a report to come out and it says

1379
01:04:23,410 --> 01:04:21,470
the older you get the less bifel

1380
01:04:25,330 --> 01:04:23,420
bacteria along him you get and I

1381
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:25,340
compared that same linear graft with

1382
01:04:29,050 --> 01:04:27,770
pancreatic amylase in human growth

1383
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:29,060
hormone and it follows the same pattern

1384
01:04:33,460 --> 01:04:32,210
as the loss of the bacteria goes away so

1385
01:04:36,370 --> 01:04:33,470
does the production of our various

1386
01:04:38,170 --> 01:04:36,380
hormones just do to your immune system

1387
01:04:40,060 --> 01:04:38,180
running out of bacteria that it could

1388
01:04:42,730 --> 01:04:40,070
sustain good point good point let's go

1389
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:42,740
to the next question now I would like to

1390
01:04:52,590 --> 01:04:45,410
return to the question of the energy I

1391
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:52,600
think this is the proper what I found

1392
01:05:00,580 --> 01:04:56,330
using my model I found the physical

1393
01:05:06,010 --> 01:05:00,590
mechanism that biomolecules would store

1394
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:06,020
energy DNA molecules for example have a

1395
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:11,450
ring structure of atoms one oxygen and

1396
01:05:17,380 --> 01:05:15,530
four carbons when it is not that in the

1397
01:05:21,210 --> 01:05:17,390
quantum mechanics when there is excited

1398
01:05:23,620 --> 01:05:21,220
stated it falls to the low level for

1399
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:23,630
nanoseconds of the Co seconds but I

1400
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:26,690
found that excited states in this ring

1401
01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:30,290
strange enter turns around and may stay

1402
01:05:35,410 --> 01:05:33,200
are much longer I don't know how much

1403
01:05:40,810 --> 01:05:35,420
but let's say it could stay about one

1404
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:40,820
second the DNA I have maybe millions of

1405
01:05:49,330 --> 01:05:44,450
billions of such structures and if

1406
01:05:53,290 --> 01:05:49,340
distort energy is released suddenly it's

1407
01:05:54,970 --> 01:05:53,300
a huge pulse but not only DNA the most

1408
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:54,980
of the proteins also have ring

1409
01:06:00,640 --> 01:05:57,530
structures and those of the products

1410
01:06:01,930 --> 01:06:00,650
mainly in the brain so brain could have

1411
01:06:05,410 --> 01:06:01,940
a possibility

1412
01:06:10,809 --> 01:06:05,420
to stop energy and this is something

1413
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:10,819
that I think should be concealed I think

1414
01:06:18,490 --> 01:06:13,490
that many of the researchers who've made

1415
01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:18,500
presentations here at this conference to

1416
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:57,010
can you speak up a little we can't hear

1417
01:07:01,359 --> 01:06:57,290
you

1418
01:07:03,809 --> 01:07:01,369
as building has a structured number of

1419
01:07:12,130 --> 01:07:03,819
Medicine governing structure for example

1420
01:07:16,450 --> 01:07:12,140
and also the ATP has also such structure

1421
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:16,460
and in the reaction with the altar the

1422
01:07:26,609 --> 01:07:18,530
stored energy could be released and yet

1423
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:29,109
it looks like the small intestine has a

1424
01:07:32,740 --> 01:07:30,890
set of bacteria that starts to help

1425
01:07:35,109 --> 01:07:32,750
create the cyclone that you're talking

1426
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:35,119
about to create adenine triphosphate the

1427
01:07:39,370 --> 01:07:36,650
large intestine has a group of bacteria

1428
01:07:41,980 --> 01:07:39,380
that are designed to help you absorb in

1429
01:07:43,839 --> 01:07:41,990
excrete energy so the sum total of the

1430
01:07:45,910 --> 01:07:43,849
bacteria of your immune system is what

1431
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:45,920
gets you adenine triphosphate to become

1432
01:07:51,220 --> 01:07:48,170
adenine diagnostic Banting monophosphate

1433
01:07:52,839 --> 01:07:51,230
I believe we go back to the immune

1434
01:07:55,180 --> 01:07:52,849
system and absorption of energy goes

1435
01:07:59,230 --> 01:07:55,190
back to the bacteria 100 trillion

1436
01:08:00,730 --> 01:07:59,240
bacteria in your intestines okay we've

1437
01:08:01,690 --> 01:08:00,740
got 12 more minutes left I'm going to

1438
01:08:06,220 --> 01:08:01,700
move on to the next question

1439
01:08:09,609 --> 01:08:06,230
dick go get him I was standing here

1440
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:09,619
earlier and congratulating Bill Bankston

1441
01:08:16,150 --> 01:08:14,690
on the the new energy was

1442
01:08:22,749 --> 01:08:16,160
discovered which was presented yesterday

1443
01:08:24,670 --> 01:08:22,759
which is Bengston energy bill of course

1444
01:08:27,970 --> 01:08:24,680
took it all with a smile as it usually

1445
01:08:29,950 --> 01:08:27,980
does with me and he says well you know I

1446
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:29,960
don't think its energy at all

1447
01:08:35,829 --> 01:08:34,250
I think it's information and I started

1448
01:08:38,380 --> 01:08:35,839
to think about that of course I had

1449
01:08:40,900 --> 01:08:38,390
thought about it before I knew of

1450
01:08:42,700 --> 01:08:40,910
Shannon's work on information and I knew

1451
01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:42,710
of people who had objected to Shannon's

1452
01:08:48,329 --> 01:08:45,440
work on information but I want to bring

1453
01:08:51,550 --> 01:08:48,339
to the fore here a few observations

1454
01:08:54,729 --> 01:08:51,560
which go against the usual concept of

1455
01:08:59,610 --> 01:08:54,739
so-called energy and the first is the

1456
01:09:03,970 --> 01:08:59,620
fact that you can transmit an intention

1457
01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:03,980
thousands of miles away instantaneously

1458
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:06,560
and it can be recorded I mean this is

1459
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:08,810
one of the major findings of the pair

1460
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:11,210
work and not only can it be recorded

1461
01:09:17,260 --> 01:09:13,489
thousands of miles away but it can be

1462
01:09:19,780 --> 01:09:17,270
recorded off time that is I could call

1463
01:09:22,539 --> 01:09:19,790
Brenda and say you know turn on the

1464
01:09:25,780 --> 01:09:22,549
machine in two weeks from today I'm

1465
01:09:28,599 --> 01:09:25,790
gonna make my intention right now and

1466
01:09:31,990 --> 01:09:28,609
when she turns it on in two weeks BAM

1467
01:09:33,550 --> 01:09:32,000
you get a reaction on the re G well

1468
01:09:37,329 --> 01:09:33,560
something that moves through time like

1469
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:37,339
that cannot be energy as we understand

1470
01:09:43,809 --> 01:09:41,210
it electromagnetic energy just cannot do

1471
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:43,819
it no matter how weak you want to make

1472
01:09:49,090 --> 01:09:45,770
it so there's something else involved

1473
01:09:54,670 --> 01:09:49,100
here that we're just not grabbing we are

1474
01:09:56,979 --> 01:09:54,680
still so stuck in 1700 thinking and what

1475
01:10:00,610 --> 01:09:56,989
we really need to do is not to bring

1476
01:10:03,430 --> 01:10:00,620
Ayurveda in or Chinese medicine in those

1477
01:10:04,810 --> 01:10:03,440
kinds of things whole hog and say okay

1478
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:04,820
we've got this other thing we've got

1479
01:10:10,750 --> 01:10:07,010
this other thing what we have to do is

1480
01:10:13,750 --> 01:10:10,760
to recalibrate those ancient forms which

1481
01:10:17,709 --> 01:10:13,760
are extremely effective to a modern era

1482
01:10:20,290 --> 01:10:17,719
and the modern era must shift from a

1483
01:10:22,390 --> 01:10:20,300
mechanical view of things to something

1484
01:10:25,770 --> 01:10:22,400
which would be much more functional and

1485
01:10:28,830 --> 01:10:25,780
we don't have the foggiest idea

1486
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:28,840
yet what it is now I've worked with

1487
01:10:35,189 --> 01:10:33,130
people who use radionics devices for

1488
01:10:38,430 --> 01:10:35,199
example very effectively

1489
01:10:40,580 --> 01:10:38,440
what's a radionics device well you put a

1490
01:10:43,740 --> 01:10:40,590
little bit of something inside a well

1491
01:10:45,959 --> 01:10:43,750
here in a machine and you tune it in

1492
01:10:49,890 --> 01:10:45,969
there various ways that they have of

1493
01:10:52,379 --> 01:10:49,900
tuning and it affects the dog for

1494
01:10:54,839 --> 01:10:52,389
example who is thousands of miles away

1495
01:10:58,350 --> 01:10:54,849
and there's a huge amount of evidence

1496
01:11:00,779 --> 01:10:58,360
that this works no one knows how it

1497
01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:00,789
works I mean there are many theories but

1498
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:05,110
it does and this is an effect that we

1499
01:11:09,779 --> 01:11:07,210
have to understand we're going to

1500
01:11:12,660 --> 01:11:09,789
understand the fundamentals of how the

1501
01:11:15,870 --> 01:11:12,670
human organism works all the things that

1502
01:11:18,029 --> 01:11:15,880
have been said here today are true but

1503
01:11:21,270 --> 01:11:18,039
they are functioning on a level which is

1504
01:11:24,629 --> 01:11:21,280
still mechanical no matter how people

1505
01:11:26,129 --> 01:11:24,639
try and conceive of them today this has

1506
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:26,139
to change all right who wants to take

1507
01:11:28,500 --> 01:11:26,650
that question

1508
01:11:30,569 --> 01:11:28,510
well there's a lot there's one there's

1509
01:11:32,850 --> 01:11:30,579
one there's one study they're saying

1510
01:11:35,879 --> 01:11:32,860
that not all subatomic particles travel

1511
01:11:37,859 --> 01:11:35,889
at the same speed CERN did a complete

1512
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:37,869
experiment and the experiment got there

1513
01:11:43,470 --> 01:11:40,449
before they sent it yeah how about that

1514
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:43,480
I mean this this so it's not like

1515
01:11:46,589 --> 01:11:44,770
they're on a highway and everybody's

1516
01:11:48,180 --> 01:11:46,599
getting clocked at 70 miles an hour and

1517
01:11:49,799 --> 01:11:48,190
getting ticketed for going 80 that's

1518
01:11:52,350 --> 01:11:49,809
right I don't anybody seen that five

1519
01:11:53,700 --> 01:11:52,360
weeks ago the message got to the point

1520
01:11:56,399 --> 01:11:53,710
where they sent it before they sent it

1521
01:12:00,330 --> 01:11:56,409
so and we see we saw that in the pair

1522
01:12:03,540 --> 01:12:00,340
work - yes information if we call it

1523
01:12:07,169 --> 01:12:03,550
that for the moment it can move in that

1524
01:12:09,569 --> 01:12:07,179
particular kind of way and another thing

1525
01:12:13,319 --> 01:12:09,579
I like to caution against saying you

1526
01:12:14,970 --> 01:12:13,329
know just saying to the public or even

1527
01:12:17,669 --> 01:12:14,980
to ourselves oh well this is energy

1528
01:12:20,250 --> 01:12:17,679
medicine I mean how many times as we

1529
01:12:24,270 --> 01:12:20,260
know in the history of science we're you

1530
01:12:25,950 --> 01:12:24,280
know we've labeled something and then we

1531
01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:25,960
say well you know we'll just call it

1532
01:12:29,459 --> 01:12:27,760
this for the time being and a little

1533
01:12:31,379 --> 01:12:29,469
later on you know we'll be sure and

1534
01:12:33,870 --> 01:12:31,389
adjust it and change it but that old

1535
01:12:36,070 --> 01:12:33,880
thing sticks and people begin to think

1536
01:12:39,130 --> 01:12:36,080
in that kind of

1537
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:39,140
and we're still thinking in 1700 terms

1538
01:12:42,550 --> 01:12:40,850
but if we don't know what to call it

1539
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:42,560
see that's what the problem that you

1540
01:12:46,899 --> 01:12:44,960
just said that it's undefinable so if

1541
01:12:48,430 --> 01:12:46,909
we've got a new medicine which is what

1542
01:12:50,590 --> 01:12:48,440
you're proposing is we all understand

1543
01:12:52,660 --> 01:12:50,600
not to be but we can't define it right

1544
01:12:55,030 --> 01:12:52,670
now then what do you do with the public

1545
01:12:56,380 --> 01:12:55,040
who is certainly not at the level that

1546
01:13:00,820 --> 01:12:56,390
we're at right now either higher or

1547
01:13:02,770 --> 01:13:00,830
lower and they're so dumb they'll never

1548
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:02,780
understand that's why we don't tell them

1549
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:06,650
about UFOs so didn't respond to place

1550
01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:09,650
jong-kook was saying this is a very

1551
01:13:15,310 --> 01:13:11,840
important comments but like you were

1552
01:13:18,060 --> 01:13:15,320
suggesting we have to have some term and

1553
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:18,070
the present term as perhaps with the

1554
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:23,330
stigma the other undesirable aspects of

1555
01:13:29,350 --> 01:13:26,090
the term of energy medicine or there is

1556
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:29,360
other forms of medicine if it is

1557
01:13:33,689 --> 01:13:30,650
something that can be used to

1558
01:13:36,729 --> 01:13:33,699
communicate and even though energy

1559
01:13:40,419 --> 01:13:36,739
energy medicine is not perhaps fully

1560
01:13:42,610 --> 01:13:40,429
explained you know all the mechanisms

1561
01:13:44,649 --> 01:13:42,620
that work we have to use some term and I

1562
01:13:47,500 --> 01:13:44,659
don't think the people would accept the

1563
01:13:50,110 --> 01:13:47,510
term of informational medicine very

1564
01:13:52,090 --> 01:13:50,120
readily so I think we're stuck for the

1565
01:13:54,700 --> 01:13:52,100
time being with with energy medicine

1566
01:13:55,890 --> 01:13:54,710
until like someone suggested early

1567
01:13:59,850 --> 01:13:55,900
coming up with a

1568
01:14:04,620 --> 01:13:59,860
different term so until we get to that

1569
01:14:05,850 --> 01:14:04,630
term that is understandable to the well

1570
01:14:18,330 --> 01:14:05,860
it's a slippery slope

1571
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:18,340
I know alright thank you hello I'm Bob

1572
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:21,010
Patterson I got a different view I'm a

1573
01:14:25,979 --> 01:14:23,890
biomedical engineer with 50 years on the

1574
01:14:29,250 --> 01:14:25,989
full professor in the medical school at

1575
01:14:31,709 --> 01:14:29,260
the University of Minnesota now the

1576
01:14:33,930 --> 01:14:31,719
number one killer in the United States

1577
01:14:36,330 --> 01:14:33,940
is heart disease and I and Henry I'm

1578
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:36,340
gonna dress my comments to you but just

1579
01:14:41,700 --> 01:14:39,730
make a few brief comments so not

1580
01:14:43,709 --> 01:14:41,710
infectious disease like you said we've

1581
01:14:45,810 --> 01:14:43,719
pretty well got it under control not

1582
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:45,820
perfectly but it's good but these

1583
01:14:54,270 --> 01:14:50,770
internal issues heart disease now so you

1584
01:14:56,780 --> 01:14:54,280
raised some good points so I want to

1585
01:14:59,850 --> 01:14:56,790
address the very explicit questions

1586
01:15:03,330 --> 01:14:59,860
you're right with the elderly blood

1587
01:15:04,770 --> 01:15:03,340
pressure goes up are you suggesting when

1588
01:15:06,919 --> 01:15:04,780
blood pressure goes up for elderly

1589
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:06,929
people they not be treated with drugs

1590
01:15:11,250 --> 01:15:09,489
the number two issue let me ask both

1591
01:15:17,100 --> 01:15:11,260
questions you probably want to forget

1592
01:15:19,260 --> 01:15:17,110
the first one okay since there's no

1593
01:15:22,669 --> 01:15:19,270
question about the fact that blood

1594
01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:22,679
pressure normally increases with age

1595
01:15:29,970 --> 01:15:25,510
hypertension something you should treat

1596
01:15:34,010 --> 01:15:29,980
should be defined in an age dependent

1597
01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:34,020
way for example 50% bigger than what's

1598
01:15:40,500 --> 01:15:37,199
every to a normal for that age and

1599
01:15:43,380 --> 01:15:40,510
anything else shouldn't be treated why

1600
01:15:45,689 --> 01:15:43,390
would you treat it because people die

1601
01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:45,699
there's data I won't get that the second

1602
01:15:51,180 --> 01:15:48,400
question in the United States obesity is

1603
01:15:55,229 --> 01:15:51,190
a big issue two issues same thing blood

1604
01:15:57,899 --> 01:15:55,239
pressure and diabetes would insulin we

1605
01:16:00,060 --> 01:15:57,909
shouldn't treat diabetes because it's a

1606
01:16:02,330 --> 01:16:00,070
natural occurrence with obesity and what

1607
01:16:06,419 --> 01:16:02,340
about blood pressure if there are two

1608
01:16:07,339 --> 01:16:06,429
different kinds of diabetes type 2 type

1609
01:16:11,839 --> 01:16:07,349
2 die

1610
01:16:14,209 --> 01:16:11,849
biddies it's not clear how that is

1611
01:16:16,879 --> 01:16:14,219
diagnosed whether it's diagnosed

1612
01:16:19,969 --> 01:16:16,889
correctly because there are several

1613
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:19,979
different ways of measuring blood sugar

1614
01:16:26,989 --> 01:16:24,449
and there it's not clear at all that the

1615
01:16:30,909 --> 01:16:26,999
way that blood sugar is currently being

1616
01:16:34,639 --> 01:16:30,919
tested for on people accurately

1617
01:16:38,419 --> 01:16:34,649
diagnosis what is a disease as opposed

1618
01:16:42,290 --> 01:16:38,429
to a natural variations because your

1619
01:16:44,750 --> 01:16:42,300
blood sugar varies throughout the day it

1620
01:16:49,159 --> 01:16:44,760
varies according to exercise it varies

1621
01:16:51,739 --> 01:16:49,169
according to diet and one needs to find

1622
01:16:55,129 --> 01:16:51,749
out what is natural for particular

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people I mean the present tendency to

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01:17:01,549 --> 01:16:58,169
say that everybody should have blood

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sugar at a hundred or 120 cholesterol at

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01:17:07,629 --> 01:17:04,769
this and so on this natural variation of

1627
01:17:11,209 --> 01:17:07,639
human beings we have different genetic

1628
01:17:13,549 --> 01:17:11,219
predispositions there are there's a

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village in Italy where the average

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01:17:20,959 --> 01:17:17,639
cholesterol level is 350 and people live

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01:17:23,750 --> 01:17:20,969
to arrive all healthy old age without

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01:17:28,279 --> 01:17:23,760
hardening or narrowing of the arteries

1633
01:17:31,879 --> 01:17:28,289
the present tendency to average

1634
01:17:40,659 --> 01:17:31,889
everything down is simply based on an

1635
01:17:42,649 --> 01:17:40,669
erroneous concept okay

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01:17:46,969 --> 01:17:42,659
doctor what's the number one cause of

1637
01:17:49,009 --> 01:17:46,979
preventable death I mean you got gun

1638
01:17:50,719 --> 01:17:49,019
shots you've got car accidents we've got

1639
01:17:53,169 --> 01:17:50,729
suicide what's the number one cause of

1640
01:17:55,790 --> 01:17:53,179
preventable death well

1641
01:17:57,949 --> 01:17:55,800
cardiovascular disease is number one no

1642
01:18:01,580 --> 01:17:57,959
no I said preventable well let me answer

1643
01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:01,590
that okay there's a lot of things I

1644
01:18:08,299 --> 01:18:05,760
should lose weight exercise but the

1645
01:18:08,989 --> 01:18:08,309
reality is in the population we're not

1646
01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:08,999
doing it

1647
01:18:16,399 --> 01:18:13,679
so what's best is not being done so as a

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01:18:18,919 --> 01:18:16,409
physician you can treat blood pressure

1649
01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:18,929
you can treat with insulin you can treat

1650
01:18:24,290 --> 01:18:22,169
blood sugars you're right that we should

1651
01:18:26,179 --> 01:18:24,300
be exercising we should lose weight and

1652
01:18:29,029 --> 01:18:26,189
all these other things are very good

1653
01:18:32,389 --> 01:18:29,039
there's an effect of the basic medical

1654
01:18:34,009 --> 01:18:32,399
community denies that but you look at

1655
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:34,019
the weight of the population that's

1656
01:18:38,149 --> 01:18:36,090
going up really quick well most people

1657
01:18:39,889 --> 01:18:38,159
go to medical doctors and I don't

1658
01:18:41,119 --> 01:18:39,899
believe they're doing such a good job of

1659
01:18:42,709 --> 01:18:41,129
educating their patients because the

1660
01:18:52,429 --> 01:18:42,719
number one cause of preventable death is

1661
01:19:11,390 --> 01:18:52,439
prescription medicine I'm sorry dr. John

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our current state of knowledge and so

1664
01:20:05,350 --> 01:20:02,420
you know those of you who are listening

1665
01:20:07,390 --> 01:20:05,360
to lectures that we that are being

1666
01:20:09,660 --> 01:20:07,400
presented at this conference and to the

1667
01:20:13,380 --> 01:20:09,670
comments that have been made you know by

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01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:13,390
the panel and anywhere else should not

1669
01:20:18,370 --> 01:20:15,890
discontinue their medication based on

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01:20:20,590 --> 01:20:18,380
any of the research results we have

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01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:20,600
because it's research results and until

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01:20:27,790 --> 01:20:24,650
there is some type of proven better

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01:20:32,380 --> 01:20:27,800
method or medication that we should we

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01:20:33,550 --> 01:20:32,390
have to rely okay that's going to have

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to be the last word I would like to

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01:20:36,420 --> 01:20:35,060
thank all of you for showing up at our

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first of two panels

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